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What are your comments looking back now?

It seems to me that East Asia, and China in particular, are now seen as massive covid failures. They couldn’t contain the virus in the long run and severe lockdowns and masking dragged on forever and caused led massive harm to their societies.

The west experienced this on a lesser scale from summer 2021 to spring 2022. Because Fauci promised “herd immunity” if we reached some threshold most blue polities and institutions reimposed lockdowns, quarantines, school closures, masks, and vaccine mandates. When all of these measures failed to contain delta and omicron (mutations anyone could tell you were inevitable) they simply got harsher. No matter how high a vaccine rate got it always needed ti be higher, because the vaccine didn’t sterilize transmission and herd immunity was an illusion.

This only ended because of disastrous electoral result for the Dems in Nov 2021 elections (my state elected a Republican governor running against Covid lockdowns despite being essentially +10 D structurally). But in authoritarian states like China zero covid insanity carried on until even the compliant Chinese started to demonstrate in the street.

I think the lesson here is that “state capacity” isn’t always all it’s cracked up to be. The red state model of just letting people manage their own lives and their own risk turned out better in the long run. A state with a lot of capacity that has bad goals makes things bad.

I would also push back a lot on masks. I think their cost is pretty high, but If you had young children during covid you know how absolutely monstrous masking them all day was.

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Abhishek's avatar

Very well explained.

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